When an AI agent can take “thousands of actions in a second,” it’s pivotal that defenders “think differently” about cybersecurity, says SailPoint Founder and CEO Mark McClain. For the latest episode of the Security or Else! podcast series, McClain, a luminary of the cybersecurity industry and longtime leader of identity security powerhouse SailPoint, spoke with CRN Senior Editor Kyle Alspach about how AI agents are changing identity security—and why organizations need automated responses to counter attacks unfolding at unprecedented speed. “That's the danger of agents—an agent can take thousands of actions in a second because it's a program,” McClain says. “Humans can't hit the keyboard a thousand times in a second. So no matter what, if a human's gone rogue, there's only so much damage they can do in a limited amount of time.” On the other hand, for agents that can attack with “automation and machine speed, [that’s a] completely different calculus on how rapidly bad things can unfold,” he says. “It’s going to cause us to think differently about things like automated response [and] remediation. How fast can you respond? How fast can you remediate?” Please like, subscribe and follow Security or Else! for more conversations about what’s hype and what’s real—and what channel partners should focus on next in security and AI.